(It's because he covered a lot of country songs in his career.) Lloyd Price They both were a lot closer to the rock world than Ray Charles was during the bulk of their careers. During the Dream Team practices, Daly called Scottie his second-best player and told David Halberstam, “You never really know how good a player is until you coach him, but Pippen was a great surprise in Barcelona—the confidence with which he played and the absolutely complete nature of his game, both on offense and defense. 10.. The only thing that makes sense in this pyramid is that Beatles is the top followed by Led Zeppelin (which should have had the name Pink Floyd next to it followed by Chuck Bery and Dylan--Dylan had some of the best music out there but surely enough it could never be as tight as LZ). The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason. If artist X is in, why isn't artist Y? Lyrics to me are merely a supplement to music. Huh, forgot that the pyramids criteria was "how well does astrodog know the artist"... Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10.31.13 @ 14:00pm, I'd simply move all the artists out of the 5th region, and sub-let a little space for myself. Scottie wasn’t wired that way, so he had to play the role of the alpha dog … and Game 3 was his Jimmy Chitwood moment. Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Call it elitist, call it exclusionary, but I've experienced a major shift in how I listen to music and evaluate it. Most weridest inductee: Jim Morrison, John Lennon, Sly Stone, Prince, and Michael Jackson. well if you're getting rid of dogshit, then what on earth is Bill haley doing there? (I would not even rate Run DMC higher than Afrika Bambaataa who isn't even in the R&RHF)? Moody Blues - 2 And when is Poco going to move up. There would have been NO MOTOWN without THEM. 15. "(You Can) Depend On Me" – The Temptations, 5. Probably both The Miracles and Sabbath. King seems to be a gracious gentleman. "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" – The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. Who is the only starter who played post-merger with a top 50 WS/48 that didn't make Simmon's Pyramid? Lastly, I would move Big Joe Turner to the top of the first level or the bottom of the second level. Jackie Wilson But every 15 that are added should mean one more to Level 5, two more to 4, and so on. * Black Sabbath up to 4 Hank Ballard & the Midnighters I would also move Buddy Holly And The Crickets up to the top. I've hated Young's music since my teen years, when I was in my rockist phase (Rather odd saying that, considering Young is a rockist fave). Dick Clark would be a good call here too. It symobilizes a website link url. Level 4: Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 01.1.19 @ 14:24pm, How about a pyramid for the Early Influence category, with Wanda Jackson and Freddie King as a 1 because they never should have been inducted in that category? Randy Newman (middle 2nd) Dezmond, The Moonglows Most snubbed artist who is now an inductee (besides Rush and Alice Cooper*)? Any thoughts? Most civilized: Cat, Smokey, Bruce (Yes, feel free to flame me! I see an attempt to place those players w/3,300 hits or more in the 1st tier, those from 3,000 - 3,300 in the 2nd tier, those from 2,700 - 2,999 in the 3rd, 2,400 - 2,699 in the 4th, & anyone from 2,000 on up in the 5th. His vocal styling influenced numerous singers in the alternative and new wave scenes, from Robert Smith to David Byrne. It just seems a bit much to place them with the greatest bands of all time. Second floor of The Pyramid. Earth, Wind & Fire Good, that puts him with these guys: Cousy, Malone, LeBron, Barkley, Garnett, McHale, Gervin, Oscar, Kobe, Robinson, Ewing and Baylor. I want to see Chicago. http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? ©2020 Verizon Media. 13. 1987 T-Bone Walker Otherwise, the other groups I like althrough I disagree with you on Linda Ronstadt because I happen to like her music and her voice. Two players already on the list he compares closely with are George Gervin at #34 and Bernard King at #58. Sign up for membership to become a founding member and help shape HuffPost's next chapter. 3. 2009 Wanda Jackson I quit listening to the "Classic Rock" stuff back in my senior year of high school. Were they just dominant at times? With Michael Jordan and his Chicago Bulls teammates back in the spotlight, let’s revisit Pippen’s standing on the ‘Book of Basketball’ Hall of Fame Pyramid. Gladys Knight & the Pips Sex Pistols t. rex - 2, Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 03.24.20 @ 17:21pm, When this pyramid was constructed, there were (IIRC) approximately 180 performer acts in the R&R HoF. In fact, that statement is the only exception to the rule that Rush should even share the same sentence with that other band. Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05.8.19 @ 06:56am. To compare: I love Elton John, but he does not deserve to be ranked higher than Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Byrds, The Doors, and others who are more innovative and influential. Alice Cooper While you can trace influences, it is a stretch to claim that without Smokey and his Miracles that "SUPREMES, TEMPTATIONS, FOUR TOPS, MICHAEL JACKSON & THE JACKSON FIVE, STEVIE WONDER, MARVIN GAYE,MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS,MARVELETTES,GLADYS NIGHT & THE PIPS" would never have seen the light of day. The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of all time. He really doesn't. And what do we make of the fact that he would have a career record of 1-4 in the Finals if it wasn't for Ray Allen hitting the most clutch shot in the history of the NBA? Blondie There needs to be slightly more room in the 5 space, cause Bowie is 100% a 5. "Much Better Off" – J Dilla. Argument could be made for a level 5, on the par with James Brown for a mid-career musical reinvention that created a brand new major genre. It's simply the inherent problem that the real Rock Hall has been trying to finesse for a while. Posted by GFW on Saturday, 11.17.12 @ 16:21pm. Candidates participating are running on the Nov. 3, 2020, ballot. Most players are like Bird, they peak and then level-off. ------------------- Level 1: Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 04.5.12 @ 13:36pm. Fleetwood Mac (Retained only for their pre-Stevie Nicks years) It's taking a lot longer than I thought to compile the list, so stay tuned. Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Feel free to argue about the order in the comments below, but remember, you can't move someone up without moving someone else down.↩. since. Most players have reached their peak by their 14th season and then plateau. "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway Nirvana and Radiohead belongs in the third. "Way Over There" – The Royal Counts, The Temptations, Edwin Starr, The Marvelettes, New Man, Eddie Adams Jr. What Zeppelin did was really shady. Posted by Follower on Friday, 01.11.19 @ 18:50pm. ELO - 1 All the Star Wars films "Bill G., be careful with such statements as "without X, Y would never have happened." Rolling Stone Magazine recognizes The Miracles' importance: They are the HIGHEST-RANKING Motown group in their list on their list of the Posted by jtrichey on Wednesday, 04.4.12 @ 23:49pm. The 97-98 Season was the 14th Season after Jordan entered the league (but only his 12th complete season as a result of the baseball sabbatical). Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15127 times) armand_a. They were the forefathers of "progressive rock," after all. 9. I can name more than one song by Costello (come on, at least give him Pump it Up), but I really don't see a career that matches up well against The Talking Heads in terms of influence, innovation or popularity. "Shop Around" – Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. Some players, like Walton, burn brightly for short periods then quickly fade. If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. We are all here precisely because we all love to debate these things (to death). 3. I loved this. The Dude does not abide. -U2 1999 Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys 13. 1995 The Orioles Here are my responses: 4. From there, they spent the next few weeks choosing a roster that eventually included Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Mullin and Ewing (and not Isiah). I am williams by name. Today is National Voter Registration Day! Meanest inductee: John Fogerty, Axl Rose, Eddie Van Halen, Johnny Rotten, Jerry Lee Lewis, Mike Love. Prince, The Beatles, James Brown, Public Enemy, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, The Rolling Stones, Beastie Boys, Louis Jordan, Michael Jackson, Little Richard, Sly & the Family Stone, Frank Zappa, Stevie Wonder, Parliament-Funkadelic, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Buddy Holly, The Miracles, The Beach Boys, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Booker T. & the MGs, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Carole King, Run-DMC, Chuck Berry, David Bowie, The Drifters, Fats Domino, Miles Davis, The Velvet Underground and Nirvana. Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. "You're So Fine and Sweet" - The Undertakers. Nicest: According to an Indianapolis limo driver who interviewed with the Indpls. After all, I am a huge "progressive rock" supporter, n'est-ce pas? OK, why are Frank Zappa and the Bee Gees on the same tier? Posted by Paul K on Monday, 12.31.12 @ 09:01am, Public Enemy: 3 Andrew - Just so you know, this Pyramid only includes acts that are in the actual Hall of Fame. Top Gun But, that said, Keep in mind that MOTOWN RECORDS was the vehicle by which all of these artists found fame and fortune...and without The Miracles , there would have been no Motown in the FIRST PLACE. But if there was an "Early Influences" pyramid, then Sister Rosetta Tharpe would at least be a 4.