However, there were 204 ABA-accredited law schools in 2016 (counting the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General's School; it would be 203 now, discounting the now-defunct Charlotte School of Law), enrolling 110,951 full- and part-time students of whom 37, 677 matriculated, or began their first year of studies. The percentages are roughly 62-38 of employed to un/underemployed. Not trying to bring you down, just understand more about a choice like this. But before that, it should be noted that while the school has been in operation for sometime, they have always … They're offering me a full ride!". )], * I believe you have my stapler? Once I got that list, I ran the results through some pivot tables in Excel, to group them by the number of times each school appears in these categories - 6 means a school appeared in all of those categories, 5 in 5 of them, etc. This is not to say that prospective students should expect to "beat the stats"... but it seems that TLS and the lawschool subreddits over-complicate the "should you go to this school or not?" Part Five: Attrition Rates and Employment Outcomes, (Edit: this section has been added to the original post at the suggestion of u/mtf612 and u/throwaway1234096). We're only looking at the bottom 50 schools. Raquel is alternately amused and resigned to the fact she fills the […], By Alizabeth Newman, Executive Director of Alumni Engagement   The CUNY City Counseling Program‘s Fall Conference on November 16, 2018, brought together more than forty staff members representing seventeen elected official offices and four community-based organizations to consider the most pressing legal needs of New Yorkers. by 03152016 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:10 pm, Post There's a lot of misinformation out there - not least from the schools themselves - and it's a situation that pits the hopeful but ignorant (applicants) against the cynical and informed (the schools). This is wrong. Schools know this, and prey upon that - and the ABA does little to stop them. Apple’s request to speed up the Greenlight Capital case was approved, with arguments now scheduled for February 19. Or does it figure out a way to game the numbers so that next time, it won’t be so embarrassed? Subscribe and get breaking news, commentary, and opinions on law firms, lawyers, law schools, lawsuits, judges, and more. Counterpoint: Yes and no, because of social context. req. If you go/went to Yale, this isn't wrong. So many of you had strong opinions. Using these and other tools (Google and common sense being perhaps the most powerful), it's entirely possible to screen schools effectively. You're a second class citizen here. 4.7K likes. One of the clear takeaways from the event was that the alumni community, as well as current and prospective students, are interested in seeing the Law School bolster its curricular offerings related to housing […], The National Jurist’s Winter 2019 Rankings Report places CUNY Law at the top of the largest ever “honor roll” for law school diversity. and these cock jockeys who slobber T-14, don't even know where to begin, any idiot can grasp the concept that we have a disproportionate amount of lawyers to legal jobs. Just kidding ... it's still FREE! Also, while the law school itself isn't great, the name Texas A&M will have some traction in-state. For example, Thomas Jefferson has a 1L academic attrition rate of over 25%. Contests, Law Schools, Reader Polls, Student Loans. If you really wanted to test whether a specific school gives you a worse chance at becoming a lawyer, then you really need to normalize for incoming GPA/LSAT. I am interested in what the OP thinks of Texas A&M, a formerly 4th Tier dump bought from Texas Wesleyan and - based on USNWR ranking alone - is considered a low T2 school. Also, there are what one can only call predatory degree mills or failure factories hiding in amongst them. This may not make them flashy, but it does make them an excellent financial value - their tuition is on average about 25% of the private options. You may be surprised at some of the law schools that made this year’s Best Value honor roll. aren't as numerous as you would think. We’re sure many Americans feel that he has already completed his community service through his actions. The result is a pool of people who are all convinced that they have been held back by their true potential in some way, regardless of what the numbers say. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Obviously, some schools need to be removed. Applying for law school is a challenging and often opaque process, that requires both the knowledge and the ability to honestly and correctly evaulate your own qualifications, the character of the schools to which you are considering applying, and the degree of compatibility between the two. Combine that with people who are stubborn, and who have too much inaccurate praise leveled at them, and you get butts in seats at all these schools every year. The Brown Award recognizes programs and projects that enable affordable access to legal services in ways that are exemplary and replicable for those […], Originally from Jersey City, Raquel Gabriel is a graduate of American University, Howard University School of Law, and Rutgers. Want to see how it looks before the big move? I am really not that familiar with CUNY Law or the SUNY Buffalo Law program. You can also sort the table by LSAT, GPA, Status and important dates relevant to CUNY Law School. Those for whom a 161 is a dissapointment, not a score beyond their wildest dreams. Hi, Texan here. Make $50/Hr Helping This Kid Get Into Middling Law Schools! [Philadelphia Inquirer], * Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who took a leave of absence from Greenberg Traurig to support Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump through the end of the election, has removed his name from consideration for any position in President-elect Trump’s administration (but only after reportedly being offered three other positions that he didn’t want). Some of them will be extremely intelligent, some of them will not be...and they may have achieved similar results in both GPA and LSAT anyway, because of the leveling effects caused by things like having to work 40-50 hours while going to school, etc. Fuck off. Going slightly against the grain - at slightly under 42k for the entire degree without any form of scholarship, CUNY is not that bad compared to other TT-TTTT schools. This is probably the perfect meme for the situation. Last note: A little bit about me. you're ok doing small town law, or chasing speeding tickets and the like for a few years to get your own firm going - it's not an unsafe option. Winning Deals, Cases and Clients with Legal Data. There are 204 schools, so let's chop them into neat quartiles of 50, and round down: the top 154 schools will make the cut as being solid enough to not require careful consideration. Akin Gump, Biglaw, Confirmations, Copyright, Gender, Jed Rakoff, Law Professors, LexisNexis / Lexis-Nexis, Morning Docket, Partner Issues, Securities and Exchange Commission, State Judges, Westlaw, * This guy could teach a master class in how to stand by your (wo)man.